Wow! Just finished watching this and see SO MANY PARALLELS between this and the JW's. Awesome documentary and the director GOT it right with the facts, mood and tone of the movie. SOMEBODY needs to do a similar documentary on the JWs in much the same vein. Powerful stuff!!
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Scientology and the Prison of Belief
by Black Man inwow!
just finished watching this and see so many parallels between this and the jw's.
awesome documentary and the director got it right with the facts, mood and tone of the movie.
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I've been asked to give a public talk (should I)
by darth frosty ina friend of mine who is planing his fade, has just been made talk coordinator.
so he calls me and ask 'do i want to give a talk at his hall?
' he knows my situation and lurks on this board himself.
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Religion is dying a slow death!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inreligion has run its course, it was used as a way to control growing populations and to give the human race a sense of direction almost like training wheels.
religion has gone on a path of no return... that includes the only true religion of jw's!!!
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Woke up this morning to the realization that the future is now
by campaign of hate inas the title of the thread says, i woke up this morning realizing more than ever that we should, each and every one of us, live for today and what we can accomplish today, rather than constantly looking toward the future.. i'm not implying we shouldn't make plans, plans are healthy and advisable, especially if you have healthy commitments.. but i realized the reason why nothing in my life ever seems to get done, is because i put things off, and look ahead 10 years down the line, then a few days later realize how much work needs to be put into that said task, then i don't do anything.
and so the cycle seems to repeat itself.. what i think i'm trying to say is that worthwhile endeavors that have a reward at the end, but take many years to get there, need to be challenged one day at a time.
i now understand that to get to where we want to be 10 years down the line, we need to focus on today and the hard work that needs to be out into a task one day at a time.
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GREAT THREAD!! And this is one of the most dangerous aspects of this cult - that it STEALS AWAY your potential (future) with their damaging propaganda and psycho babble. It was such a mind-fuck when I "woke up" and realized this. -
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Looking for former bethelite with initials M&M...
by darth frosty ini was at bethel from 94-96 the person i am looking for came about 95-96 he left to get married 8/96.
i have heard he dis associated and hope he is on jwn.
if you read my bio you will know who i am (hint we went to the same hall.
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"You never made Jehovah REAL to you"
by Black Man inthat was a statement from my dyed-in-the-wool jw pioneer mother in trying to analyze why i faded and left the jws.
my answer was to say: "if i have to make something real to me, chances are it wasn't real to begin with.
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That was a statement from my dyed-in-the-wool JW pioneer mother in trying to analyze why I faded and left the JWs. My answer was to say: "if I have to MAKE something real to me, chances are it WASN'T REAL to begin with."
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Why JWs are a CULT - ULTIMATE POST
by Black Man inhey all - i wanted to make a post to consolidate all the great info, posts, links about why jws are a cult (the signs, symptoms, everything, etc).. would love to have the definitions and specific examples of how jws fit those definitions/descriptions.. thanks in advance!
love you guys!!.
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Hey all - I wanted to make a post to consolidate all the GREAT info, posts, links about WHY JWs are a cult (the signs, symptoms, everything, etc).
Would love to have the definitions and specific EXAMPLES of how JWs FIT those definitions/descriptions.
Thanks in ADVANCE! Love you guys!!
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Why I Refuse to Accept the term APOSTATE
by Black Man inbeen going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool jw) about the term apostate.
she has labeled me one because of my fading and because i stopped attending meetings a few years ago.
i told her that i refuse to accept the term apostate because its a lazy way for the wts to not deal with dissenters and address why people are leaving this organization in droves.
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Been going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool JW) about the term apostate. She has labeled me one because of my fading and because I stopped attending meetings a few years ago. I told her that I refuse to accept the term apostate because its a LAZY WAY for the WTS to not deal with dissenters and address WHY people are leaving this organization in droves.
There's no effort made to see whether it's been WTS policies, lunacy, that are responsible for people turning "apostate." But no, because you leave and have moved on from it, their responsible is to embrace the philosophy of a 4-year old and resort to name calling. And its all so LAZY!!!
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Sleep Paralysis - YOUR EXPERIENCES
by Black Man inso what have been your experiences with sleep paralysis?
any connection to astral projection?
this has interested me recently as i used to have sleep paralysis quite often years ago.
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Yeah, I think it was stress related. I've been working long hours recently and have been exhausted. When I was in the JW's, I used to think that it was a demonic attack. I even remember having a sleep paralysis episode when I was at Bethel, which freaked me out at the time because I thought how could the DEMONS be getting to me at Bethel??!!
I've since learned that there are more clinical reasons for it and years ago learned to wake myself up or "control" elements of the dream that I was having. A friend of mine recently told me that sleep paralysis is the beginning of being able to do astral projection, which is probably a different conversation altogether. I may look more into that for sure!
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Sleep Paralysis - YOUR EXPERIENCES
by Black Man inso what have been your experiences with sleep paralysis?
any connection to astral projection?
this has interested me recently as i used to have sleep paralysis quite often years ago.
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So what have been your experiences with Sleep Paralysis? This has interested me recently as I used to have sleep paralysis quite often years ago.